Business of Marketing

Business of Marketing is the podcast of marketing intelligence. John Horsley and Justin Cooke sit down with the people running marketing and commercial functions at the world's biggest brands, agencies and platforms. In-depth, conversations on the record. Published at businessof.co.

Episodes

Apr 16, 2026

35 min

Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, Justin Cooke speaks with Jackie Ellenby about building distinctive brands, marketing unforgettable experiences, and why the strongest brands compete on uniqueness, not comparison.

Apr 15, 2026

29 min

Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, John Horsley speaks with Chris Elsheki, Vice President of Demand Generation at Usercentrics, about privacy-led marketing, building demand engines, and why trust is becoming one of the most important performance signals in B2B.

Apr 14, 2026

30 min

Live from Advertising Week Europe, John Horsley is joined by Bryan Barletta, founder of Sounds Profitable, for a conversation on the business of podcasting. From creator economics to attribution, audience engagement and the future of the industry, this episode looks at where podcasting is headed next.

Apr 13, 2026

28 min

Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, John Horsley sits down with Ben Smith, Director of Global Marketing at ReachDesk, to explore how marketing teams are building pipeline, aligning to revenue, and breaking through the noise.

Apr 10, 2026

30 min

Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, this episode sees Justin Cooke in conversation with Andrew McCormick, former Chief Growth Officer at Dentsu X, unpacking how agencies are evolving, what really drives growth, and why outcomes, not outputs, now define success.

Apr 9, 2026

36 min

Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe, John Horsley speaks with Paul Anderson, Global Chief Creative Director and founding partner at Gravity Global, about the state of B2B creativity, the enduring power of brand, and why big ideas still matter.

Apr 8, 2026

33 min

In this episode, John Horsley speaks with Jason Warnes about the evolution of digital marketing, why the fundamentals still matter, and how AI is reshaping agencies, creativity and brand building in real time.

Apr 7, 2026

46 min

In this episode of The Business of Marketing, John Horsley speaks with Gareth Cummings, CEO of eDesk. From early coding on a Commodore 64 to leading a global e-commerce support platform, Gareth shares his views on leadership, resilience, AI, and why customer experience remains central to growth.

Jan 5, 2026

25 min

John Horsley is joined by Maor Sadra, CEO & Co-Founder of INCRMNTAL, to explore why marketing must move beyond clicks and attribution to measure true business value. A candid conversation on incrementality, leadership, and the future of marketing ROI.

Jan 5, 2026

44 min

Andrew Bialecki, Co-CEO and Co-Founder of Klaviyo, joins John Horsley on The Business of Marketing to explore how consumer CRM is evolving in the age of AI. From bootstrapping to IPO, Andrew shares lessons on autonomy, product-led growth, and the rise of agentic commerce.

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